Thrustmaster T.16000M Space Sim Duo Stick - Dual Ambidextrous Joysticks with H.E.A.R.T HallEffect AccuRate Technology for PC

Really good quality Joysticks. I originally purchased my first pair in July 2019 and one of them has had a tremor in the rotation axis (twisting the handle round) for the last few months, this month its become too much of a hindrance to continue to use however, that is still roughly 6 years of good performance and considering I bought several £40 joysticks that lasted nowhere near as long its good value for money. I also went through a house move during this time so that might well be partly to blame (I can see the tremor on the windows calibration screen in addition to how it affects gameplay). Other than the last ability I like the left and right handed grips and all the buttons are very useful. Also having two joysticks makes controlling thrusters and normal engines easy. Hope this helps someone else make a decision on a purchase.

I bought these for getting into space flight games, and almost went with more expensive sticks but decided to be good and stick to my budget. I'm very glad I did, these sticks are exactly what I wanted! Initially I thought they not be good quality because of the price compared to other joystick sets but I'm very happy with them so far. They are made of plastic, and have a good weight to them so don't feel cheap. There are plenty of buttons, sliders and other inputs so you're not short of controls. As for feel, they are robust so far, and responsive. I've been using them for a few weeks so I'll have to see how they hold up long term, but I'm fairly confident they should last well. Software wise, you can download the Target software from their website, although the games I've played (Star Citizen and Elite) haven't needed it as they recognised the sticks fine. The one criticism I have is the base buttons could do with a little more obvious identification on the button so you can more easily find the right ones without looking. Don't get me wrong, they do have indents and ridges to help, but they kind of blend together, to me at least. That said, that's a minor niggle and just really takes practice to get the motor functions down. All in all, a great set of sticks at a bargain price!

These are for the determined player! The magnetic sensor they use does not wear out like a potentiometer. So while these are expensive the sensor will be consistent over the entire life of the product. I have used these for years and eventually the ball joint just becomes sloppy and the trigger switch will fail. However that takes years, ordinary joysticks fail very quickly because the potentiometer wears out. These just go on forever. The last three of these I have bought the trigger switch has failed. This is largely because the trigger switch is just a generic, cheap micro switch. I have even bought a pack of switches now so I can repair them in future! But even so, inside about three years the ball joint will wear out and that will be the end of the joystick. It does help if you frequently add some silicon lubricant but sooner or later it will be the death of the stick. By the way, these are in fact just two identical joysticks. They even supply the parts to convert from right to left and left to right handed for both of them. The set just represents a saving over buying two separate joysticks. Unfortunately, in recent years the price of these have just gone through the roof. When I first started buying the single joysticks they were £25 each. Now they are £110 the pair. That's insanity. These are good sticks but there is no way they are THAT good. The quality just isn't there. Given how expensive they are, Thrustmaster should solve the problem of the sloppy ball joints and the cheap trigger switches so they justify their high price. Recommended with some complaint!!

Lefty bit first, yes I'm left handed and so is my spouse, so most joysticks are right handed, so I originally got one of these to go with the FCS for Elite Dangerous. That was better, I swapped it to left handed, but now the FCS buttons are just odd, buy another TM16000M - good much better. Rotations on the left hand stick, translations on the right hand stick and with the TARGET software make the right triggers a shift up and shift down. Now have stupid numbers of buttons on the base (none of which I use as I use Voice Attack/HCS Voice Packs). But these also allow me to shift the hat buttons other top buttons and so panels of the left (never use 'em) and targeting on the right. This works perfectly and so when I got Elite for my spouse, this was first on the list. As to the joysticks themselves, very smooth, could do with a centre click on the base throttles (extra throttle on right, zoom of left) but just allocated a dead zone in TARGET. Bttons could be better dientified - I stuck rubbler/fluff pads on so I can tell without removing the Oculus. Screwed them down to boards, so moving isn't an issue and the buttons are OK without being exceptional the sticks themselves feel like they have steel shafts nice and solid. I did look at the Warthog but it's right handed, this just works better for me. Bottom line, overall bought four joysticks in total, make of that what I think of them.

I'm a big fan of the game Descent, I have all versions from Descent 1 to date. The sticks are solid, with heavy springs and metal ballast in the base - and they are provided with two M6 bolt holes for mounting - this is great because previously I had to keyhole the bases of my joysticks and use M5 bolts to secure them to the mounting board. Configuring the sticks for the older games was a bit fiddly but not impossible; some unplugging and plugging had to be done to get all the axes recognized. I'm still on Windows 7, which may have contributed to the blue screens I got when I attempted to install the TARGET software. However this is not a show stopper by any means. Excellent bit of kit!

Sticks are very easy to setup and use although the associated software itself (T.A.R.G.E.T) could do with some minor improvements for when you need to use the sticks in a more specialised way. I personally use them for playing Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen for which they are extremely suited for. They feel very ergonomic in the hand although depending on the set up of your desk and position of your computer relative to your play srea you may find the USB cables to be a little short.which is an issue I currently have with the left stick but this can be solved with a good quality extension cable. I would definitely recommend these as a cost effective entry point to dual stick play or joysticks in general when purchasing the single unit or HOTAS version. I have not yet purchased the pedals but definitely plan on doing so and would recommend it to anyone looming to enhance their experience with these sticks just thst little bit more.

Great product for the price! Not for hardcore Flight Sims, but works well on Casual games like Star Citizen. But 2 of the extra pieces didn't have a rubber covering on the Peg bits, so can't use them as replacements as they just fall off the joystick..

The T.16000 sits nicely in the range between the T.Flight and Warthog. Two sticks make for precision manoeuvring and feels entirely natural in a space sim. They're well-made, comfortable and have magnetic sensors for *reliability. Base buttons feature concave or braille surfaces, useful for playing in VR. Orange lighting complements Elite Dangerous's colour scheme. Each stick can be made either left or right-handed so if you don't get on with them you can always use one for another setup. (Two right hands anyone? xD) Thrustmster's TARGET software makes them immensely customizable and there are several downloadable presets for games like Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous (more would be welcome). I'd prefer a bit more weight to the base but there are mounting holes underneath. All in all good value for money considering the price of some sticks. *After some time the z-axis (twist) of both sticks exhibited erratic behaviour. Apparently an ordinary potentiometer is used for this axis and is prone to causing trouble. (Shaving a little off the casing can fix it.)

Very good as far as starter sticks go. Snappy, good response and return to zero. The software has a learning curve but isn't insurmountable. Overall happy with the purchase as they don't drift while flying FA Off in Elite: Dangerous.

Perfekte beginner flight sticks für Space sims. Die Qualität is zwar nicht die allerbeste aber für den preis auf jeden fall 1a Ja durch die anzahl der knöpfe anfangs unübersichtlich aber wenn man den dreh mal raus hat, perfekte budget anfänger sticks

Los joystick son muy buenos lo que me saca de quicio es que me los hayan vendido $45 dólares mas caros que a los que están ahora en venta y ni van ni mas del mes de la compra

Compre estos joystick porque se me rompieron los x52 tras un año y seis meses y Amazon me devolvió el dinero muy rápidamente, servicio impecable. Esperemos que estos duren más, sobre todo el eje de rotación que es lo mas frágil. Son más pequeños que otros que he probado, por lo que me parecen más cómodos que los de Logitech (he probado el x52 y el x56), lo malo es que tienen menos botones y lo que parece un joystick en la parte superior en realidad son cuatro botones. Los botones en general se sienten de menos calidad que los de logi pero responden bien. La base me encanta, lleva unas almohadillas por debajo que se aferran muy duro a la madera en comparación a los logi, que son el doble de grandes y agarran la mitad. Además son los únicos que no han subido una barbaridad en los últimos dos años. En general los recomiendo por el precio, y también recomiendo el dual joystick para star citizen, y combinado con el acelerador de esta misma marca (que se vende por separado) tienes el set completo de dual joy + palanca de gases por menos de 200 euros. Editado: ahora que los he probado bien puedo decir que funcionan de maravilla, muy buena respuesta, y he solventado la escasez de botones bindeando la tecla control izquierda del teclado a un botón del joystick para tener una capa extra, muy fácil de hacer con un programa que vi en un tutorial de Youtube.

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